Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said he would step in to run for Speaker of the House if Democrats take back the chamber in November and Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) does not appear to have the votes, he told The New York Times.
The comments are the latest indication he is exploring a run for the Speakership.
“If the opportunity is there I would absolutely do it,” he told The New York Times, emphasizing that he still supports Pelosi, but wants to be ready should she fall short of the votes needed.
Clyburn, who is currently the third highest ranking Democrat in the House, would be the body’s first black Speaker. He said his claiming the Speakership would “put to bed forever the notion that the Democratic Caucus is taking black voters for granted.”
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While his potential ascension to the role would send a strong message, he has said his Speakership would not be merely symbolic and he would try to make significant changes to his party instead of just being a figurehead.
“I think our party needs to be transformed and that’s what I’m talking about,” Clyburn told McClatchy Tuesday. “Custodial? Lord, no.”
Pelosi responded to Clyburn’s comments, seemingly unperturbed by his interest in the Speaker’s gavel. Clyburn is a “beautiful, lovely member of Congress” she told the Times.
Pelosi is facing a swell of Democratic opposition heading into the midterm elections in what may be her biggest internal test in her 15 years of leading the party, both in the minority and majority.
NBC News has a tally of at least 55 House candidates, including 10 incumbents, who oppose her retaking the Speakership next year.
In light of this Democratic divide and Republican assaults on Pelosi ahead of the midterm elections, Clyburn is seen as offering a viable alternative for a party that claims the mantle of diversity. Members of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) have already expressed support for a speakership bid.
“Among a lot of us, Jim Clyburn is beloved. Not loved, beloved,” CBC member Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) told McClatchy. “He’s comfortable with conservative members of the (Democratic) caucus. He’s comfortable with liberals and the progressive wing. And so whatever he decides, a number of people want to be on his team.”
While CBC membership makes up 45 of the 193 Democrats in the House of Representatives, that number could grow after the midterm elections, which would aid Clyburn should he seek the speakership.
“You cannot get to 218 (votes) to be Speaker without the Black Caucus,” CBC Chairman Rep Cedric Richmond (D-La.) told McClatchy. “If we hold, you cannot get the speakership without us. I’m just doing math right now, you can’t get there without the Black Caucus.”
Should Pelosi fail to get the votes and Clyburn throw his hat into the ring, he may face a challenge from the second highest ranking Democrat in the House, Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.).
Hoyer, 79, and Clyburn, 78, are both considered elder statesmen in their party and are well-liked, meaning a leadership race could prove particularly divisive at a time when Democrats are attempting to bridge an already expansive gap between progressives and moderates.
“If we were all smart and strategic that race will never occur,” Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.), a former CBC chairman and a senior member of Hoyer’s whip team, said on Capitol Hill in July, according to McClatchy.